People started to understand, “Hey, they got some players over in Oakland, and they got a lot of dog in 'em.” That was the start of us saying, “OK, J, we done made it happen.” People were saying, “We gonna be like J.

That's when I started to really play pickup basketball, and it was always against older guys. There, you'd go in and you'd say, “I got next.” But [at Mosswood], you'd have a lot of hoodlums and thugs around there, and they'd actually be running the games. He had so many people that wanted to go see him that they'd have to play their high school games at the Oakland Coliseum [now called the Oracle Arena]. I said, “That's the right mentality. That's where I got really known, from going at them guys. You never listened to me!” To see Damian work so hard, it all comes from him working. Q: How different was it then at the park versus nowadays? We had to go the playgrounds. He got that invite on the back of landing his “Lost and Found” dunk in 2015, which is more commonly known as the greatest dunk ever: Now another video has popped up showing Kilganon perhaps not-so-randomly picked from the audience at NBA House by host and NBA legend Gary Payton. Q: I'm glad you brought up Mosswood there, because I was going to ask about that specifically. [laughs] It was one of them things, and George Gervin was a big thing to me.

My mentality was already there, to be one of those hard-nosed basketball players, and not back down from nobody.

Once we started seeing that, we had a landmark to say, “Oakland is a place where point guards are going to come at you tough.” Me making the Hall of Fame, and Jason about to make the Hall of Fame, it just made it even better, because we've still got kids like Ivan Rabb, who's going to Cal now. I never really thought about playing in the pros, or playing basketball. We gonna be like Brian Shaw.” Kids were saying they wanted to be like us and were going to make it to the pros and be like them and wanted to do the things that we did. Do you remember when you first saw him play and got to know him? The episode focused on the 1996 Finals between the Chicago Bulls and Seattle Supersonics, detailing how the Sonics won two straight games after Defensive Player of the Year Gary Payton took on the challenge of guarding Jordan. Everybody knows, Jason wasn't really the scorer in the league that he was in high school and in college, but he was an all-around basketball player that got better and better and became great.

Payton: It's crazy up in that arena. My 10th-grade year, I didn't play for the whole year, and I was ineligible. He brought his five from the north side and didn't care which side of Oakland your five called home. Account active It was nothing like nowadays, where they have AAU and all of these nice basketball courts at your disposal.

Boosts the ability to hit high degree of difficulty layups, Provides more explosive first steps out of triple threat and size-ups, Improves the ability to convert contact layups and dunks in traffic, Improves a player's ability to beat defenders with an advanced layup or dunk gather, Gives an additional boost for having good layup timing, Reduces the fatigue effects from continually finishing at the rim with contact, Increases the chance of hitting floaters and runners, Boosts the chance of hitting a jump shot immediately after a catch, Gives a boost to shots taken near the corner, Improves the ability to shoot difficult shots off the dribble, Improves the likelihood of freezing or dropping a defender during dribble moves, Increases the chances of successfully completing a pass from mid-air, Boosts the shot percentage for open teammates on jump shots after catching a pass, Gives an additional boost to player's Takeover meter after completing an assist with a flashy pass, Teammates receive an offensive attribute bonus when player is in the game, Reduces the amount of energy lost when performing dribble moves, Improves the chances of completing a successful alley-oop pass, Increases the likelihood that tough passes can get by the defense, Increases the effectiveness of pass fakes, Provides more explosive first steps out of tripple threat and size-ups, Improves a player's ability to create space from defender, Improves a player's ability to start and stop with the ball, Improves a player's ability to break down their defender, Reduces the chances of getting stripped by the defender, Boosts the ability to stay in front of the ball handler on the perimeter, Decreases opponents' Takeover meters when achieving a highlight play on defense, Increases chances at getting steals in passing lanes, Improves a player's ability to navigate through screens effectively on defense, Improves a player's ability to steal the ball from a ball handler, Reduces energy lost when exerting efforts on defense, Makes life difficult for the offensive players when trapped, Improves a player's ability to bump and harass the offense off the ball, Not one to hide emotion during big moments.

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Note that Classic Players' ratings never change. When I got to the pros, and all of a sudden I became who I was, I got to meet him, and it was amazing.

When St. John's University started recruiting me, they told me, “You're better than most of these East Coast guards and the Midwest ones.” I was going at 'em. It's great for our city, and with winning the championship, we can build up.

I was like, “Shoot, we didn't even get nominated for the McDonald's All-American Game, he must be pretty good!” [laughs] I went home that next summer, and I started hearing about him more and more, and my agents at the time, the Goodwins, had started talking to Jason and were trying to stay on his radar. Payton: Playing for your father and playing for a person like him – and he was so mean, he was that way – it was better for me. It was just fun, and we had to get home before the street lights turned on.

If a guy goes at you and wants to tear your head off, that mean they don't respect you. [laughs] I had to go and take it to him when he first became a rookie. I didn't start dreaming about going nowhere until I got to high school. J.R. Rider, Greg Foster, Antonio Davis and B-Shaw all started to make it to the NBA, and that was a big thing for us.

Signature Manuals: http://HoopHandbook.com Dre Baldwin talks about Guard Posting Back-Thru Spin Dribble Jumper Pt. [My friends and I] all grew up together, and we started playing with my father's basketball team, “We Are Family.” I grew up learning a lot.

He kept on getting better, and he became an All-American at Cal, and then went on to the pros. I was one of the guys on the block that was pretty good, even though I was younger. I gotta get there [academically] first, before I can start playing basketball.

Even in the pros, I still couldn't let him do nothing to me. He'd stay over at my house, and we'd go work out and he got better and better.

The opponent didn't matter. A lot of people might've said I couldn't deal with him, but my father, even when I scored 45 or 50 points, he'd get on me even more.

Payton: Everything was outdoors! That's where you get tough at.

He always used to tell me, “You know, my little son is good.” I'd never listen to him. We can get hotels, we can start hosting things like the All-Star Game, and we can hopefully not have to transport it to San Francisco. He made me think about future first, and then think about basketball.

We couldn't get a gym.

You'd get on the court, and it was almost just like Rucker.

[laughs], That's just the way it was. Everyone. I probably beat him down for about eight or nine days straight, and he kept coming back. Then, my reality started coming.

(Getty), Gary Payton threw out the ceremonial first pitch at a Mariners game in 2013. He got his game at the park, and as he's been known to do, he was happy to talk endlessly and tell his story of how Oakland shaped him. By clicking ‘Sign up’, you agree to receive marketing emails from Business Insider He's not gonna quit.” He was going to go at somebody until he got better. His father is a couple years older than me, and I knew him from around our little neighborhood playgrounds and stuff. Get the latest odds, analysis, and insights at Yahoo Sportsbook.

I just thought, “This kid is really good, and he's playing like they're nobody.” He looked at them as just kids. I wouldn't even let him score. He's gonna get it, and do what he does at Cal and come out too. Most of the time, the guys would always say, “Hey, we've got Young Payton.” That's what they called me. Everyone would scatter, and then we'd come back about an hour later once everything would break up and was back to normal.

They have so much access, and AAU is just giving them stuff. Y'all think you got game, well I got some guys at this playground that are legends. You'd go up there on a Saturday, and it'd be full of a lot of people. I was a kid.

Subscriber I wanted to go to the Golden State games because I wanted to see George Gervin, who played for the San Antonio Spurs. Q: Obviously, Damian Lillard is the guy now, a generation later, that looked up to you guys. It wasn't opened up to us like that. Kilganon is a 23-year-old professional dunker from Ontario, Canada. He was only 14 years old when he started to hone his game against grown men at the famed Mosswood Park.

And I'm going to get real good at it.” I played every day.

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